gotta get better
This, folks. This isn’t a gift, it’s the result of hard work.
I get very frustrated when people tell me I’m talented in a way that negates all the work I’ve done improving my drawing skill. We like to think of artist as being sort of magicians that can just create pictures out of thin air. There can be an element of talent in there. I know I have a knack for understanding things on a visual level that gives me an edge, but that’s about 5% of it. The other 95% is practice and study and staying up till three o’clock in the morning working.
dumb rant about boobs and crossed arms
Okay, took a short 10 minute break to doodle this. Trying to illustrate something that a lot of artists do, intentionally or unintentionally, when drawing kinda-busty to very-busty people. I’m no expert but I figured I’d just try.
1 - arms crossed without boobs as obstacle
2 & 3 - popular ways of drawing busty people unrealistically crossing arms
4 - a more natural and realistic way of crossing arms
Bonus - something a lot of inexperienced artists do to try to work around all obstacles at once, but end up drawring strangely lone arms and torsos in the process.
Lots of WORDS below…
Good advice! I’m pretty sure I’ve been making the mistake of busty women crossing their arms underneath their boobs cause I didn’t know any better. Large boobs present so many challenges!
Just to add a different perspective, I’m a busty woman who crosses her arms underneath her breasts. This might be a personal quirk since I have both an unusually long torso and unusually wide shoulders. In order to do this comfortably I have to push my breasts upwards and inwards, which gives me very pronounced cleavage. I also have to cross my arms more shallowly and as the op states my shoulders need to be down. It’s a much easier position to do when I’m sitting than when I’m standing.
I personally find this a little more comfortable than the over the breasts position. However, both positions feel unnatural to me, so I tend not to cross my arms for longer than it takes me to remember that puberty made it inconvenient. It’s perhaps worth keeping in mind that when designing characters with larger busts they may not naturally go for this position at all, and may instead prefer to rest their hands on their hips when annoyed or cross their arms very loosely around their torso if they’re feeling anxious.
A) I love how drawing women to him means “drawing women who wear make up in a style I like” and that superheroines apparently spend a lot of their off-time applying mascara and eyeliner.
B) Men can’t wear earrings? Women must?
C) Again, the intense fear of making women “masculine.” Apparently nose bridges are only for men now. We must inform our DNA of this!
D) I wish he would stop using “woman” to mean just one really really thin narrow standard of beauty. Supposedly, he’s teaching people how to draw WOMEN, right? Not “this particular woman, complete with make up and pouty lips.”
He’s not teaching us how to draw women as much as his (and society’s) artificial idea of what women should look like, complete with eyeliner, mascara and earrings.
I need to rebloob this because all, ALL of these ‘how to draw comics women’ and ‘how to draw manga’ books need to go away. They’re extremely harmful to the development of beginning artists. They’re completely counterproductive in teaching formulaic ways of drawing people and advocate doing things in a specific style straight off the bat, as opposed to learning the basics through realism and THEN stylizing with a complete understanding of *what* you’re breaking apart and reassembling and how it’s constructed.
There’s SO much more to human faces than predefined ratios and proportions and ‘ideal’ shapes, and by telling young artists to remove the exact most defining traits of human facial features (and anatomy as a whole) is like breaking their kneecaps and then telling them to learn to run. The emphasis absolutely needs to be centered on drawing and painting varied and interesting faces with personality in them, not some strictly predefined hyper-idealized features that leave out everything that actually enables us to tell one face from another.
I’m saying this because this kind of thinking really crippled my learning for years and I had to unlearn all this shit and start over from scratch. I wish someone had told me early on that I was doing it wrong and needed to do it THIS way to get any good at it.
I’m reblogging this comment because it’s absolutely correct and needs to be spread around. This is exactly the problems with these kinds of “how to draw comics” guide because it’s really “how to draw a very very specific style” and the how to draw women stuff is really “how to draw women as I specifically like them down to wearing eyeliner” and it doesn’t teach you any basics to draw people and THEN you can add in your own preferences and styles, instead it’s really rigid and fixed.
Compare that to Lady Nilstria’s “how to draw women” guide:
which is way more general and teaches you the basics rather than how to draw women the specific way she thinks you should down to how long their eyebrows should be, or how thick their lips should be.